11-20-2009, 06:17 PM
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Oh, and cranker? Isn't that a hand movement of some kind? nudge nudge wink wink say no more?
A crank will send rotary motion into a linear up and down, in and out motion, and vice versa oh yeah.
The early Romans who are the southern brothers to our frenetic Alfa builders in the North, used cranks and shafts to separate wheat from the chaff in their early days of glory (and infamy.) They probably got this idea from the Chinese, but once again the Italians ran with the idea and came up with our gorgeous Nord motors in the end... 
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11-20-2009, 06:19 PM
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Check at Danhard.com and they can set you up. I have seen them used in motorhomes and they can do a great job.
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11-20-2009, 06:28 PM
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Could always mount a swamp cooler out the window!
Wouldn't do much sitting in traffic though...
And not particularly in keeping with the 1750's lines 
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11-20-2009, 07:28 PM
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Take a look at the A/C install in my '67:
I mounted a standard Sanden compressor using the SPICA pump studs down below the dizzy, more or less where the Bosch Spiders installed it. Works great, and unless you're looking for it you wouldn't see it.
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11-22-2009, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jarrington
Take a look at the A/C install in my '67:
I mounted a standard Sanden compressor using the SPICA pump studs down below the dizzy, more or less where the Bosch Spiders installed it. Works great, and unless you're looking for it you wouldn't see it.
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Very neat installation. Maybe hiding the pump is not such big issue after all.
I've decided that I'm not going to do this modification and will leave it unmolested. The reason is that if I find it completely impossible to drive then I can always pull some of it apart afterwards, and yes I'd rather not do it.
And the rest having fun  , keep at it. I'm fully expecting this sort of response, enjoy.
I still believe old cars should be left as old cars, because that is why we are into old cars, ie. the fun of the full experience not just the looks. Unfortunately when these cars were new it was not 40+ degrees all the time ... or was it in Sydney? ... wasn't in NZ where I grew up that is for sure .
Pete
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11-22-2009, 11:48 AM
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Pete,
Global warming. It's getting hotter. Maybe chop the roof off.
My memories of Sydney when I was growing up was that every year we'd always get a hot patch where the temps did go around 40. We had the day off school when it went over 40 so it was something to remember.
It was maybe only the last 10 years or so when those heat waves didn't arrive or they only lasted a day or two. Maybe its going back to "normal".
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11-22-2009, 02:21 PM
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Pete,
Global warming. It's getting hotter. Maybe chop the roof off.
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, good suggestion except the air's too hot.
Oh well, in the end Alfa's were created so we could all enjoy ourselves ... lifes too short, enjoying our cars whatever form we want them in is all that matters. No aircon for me yet, but it might happen in the future ... rather relocate
Pete
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11-22-2009, 05:09 PM
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A suggestion from a mate at work is that I create the bracketry now (or while the engine is rebuilt) to mount an aircon pump so that I get that all professionally figured out with easy access. Then I can always add it later.
He did raise a good point and that is the demisting of the windscreen which really does not work at all safely and well with old cars. BTW: He is restoring a Mustang.
Thus would I be able to run the water pump, an alternator AND an aircon pump through the one belt? ... I could add an idler or 2 so the necessary wrap is maintained on the crank pulley. I'd rather keep with one belt as then it would be less obvious ... maybe.
Pete
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11-24-2009, 09:01 AM
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A suggestion from a mate at work is that I create the bracketry now (or while the engine is rebuilt) to mount an aircon pump so that I get that all professionally figured out with easy access. Then I can always add it later.
He did raise a good point and that is the demisting of the windscreen which really does not work at all safely and well with old cars. BTW: He is restoring a Mustang.
Thus would I be able to run the water pump, an alternator AND an aircon pump through the one belt? ... I could add an idler or 2 so the necessary wrap is maintained on the crank pulley. I'd rather keep with one belt as then it would be less obvious ... maybe.
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I don't think you'll find too many systems where A/C shares the same V-belt as the alternator and water pump, and it's not necessary in any case. The cleanest pulley solution is a 2 row from a Bosch injected Spider with A/C. The outer (A/C) pulley has a simple but effective built-in tensioning system by removing or adding shims, which allows you to solid mount the compressor to the block. In other words, you don't need to rig up a rotating tensioning system.
From my experience, I'd do the following to prep an engine for an eventual A/C install:
1. Source and install a Bosch Spider 2-row pulley
2. Use a US 1750/2L front cover with the SPICA pump studs
3. Mount a Sanden style compressor on a York to Sanden conversion bracket, and drill holes in the bracket for the SPICA studs wherever they need to be for the pulleys to line up.
Then leave the bracket mounted to the engine during installation and when you're ready to cool down just add the compressor, lines, evaporator, dryer and belt. I did a writeup of my A/C install for the Berlina newsletter, if you're interested - it's attached.
-Jason
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